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To resuscitate or not to resuscitate; that was the question!

 

The two background papers for the evening’s discussion centred around CPR in continuing care setting and the efficacy of performing CPR on these patients; as well as attempted suicide and the ethics of treating or not treating a patient who is likely to die as a result of their attempt.

 

Interestingly, one paper was co-authored by Dr Don Chalfin from the USA who is one of the keynote speakers at the national ACAP conference being held in Adalaide from 2-4 November at the Adelaide Convention Centre

 

The audience consisted of a broad spectrum of ambulance personnel from career and volunteer stations as well as palliative care researchers and nurses from around the state.

 

 

The Panel

 

The panel for the evening consisted of Dr Brian Stoffel, a health ethicist and ethics committee member from Flinders University; Dr Laurie Palmer, a one-time member of SAAS’ Medical Advisory Committee, ED doctor at QEH and currently a palliative care specialist at Modbury hospital; Rob Elliott, head of clinical and operational services for SAAS; and SAAS Medical Director, Dr Hugh Grantham.

 

Here are some of the salient points that came up throughout the evening.

 

1.Is it okay to practice on people you believe are not going to survive?

The group was divided. It is not illegal. Ethics are questionable.

 

2.Is CPR effective enough too always start?

Not really. Most times we are just going through the process.

 

3.If you do start CPR there are two possible outcomes:

(a) live

(b) die

If you don’t try there is only one outcome.

 

4.The Queen Elizabeth Hospital now places directives in the green book for patients.

This could create some legal questions, but gives a great indication to patients’ wishes at the it was written.

 

5.Organ donation: is there a point in resuscitating for this reason?

Sometimes they can harvest corneas, but not usually anything else.

 

6.Time to get used to the idea of a patient dying.

Can be perceived as easier for family, but it is not necessarily always the case.

 

By Tracy Callanan, Membership secretary, ACAP SA

 

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